Pro Photo Podcast #78RT. Nicknames, Money, Data & Latex Pants

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Today’s Panel... Gavin Seim (G Pixel)Denns Zerwas (Z Power) – Kerry Garrson (MR K) – Barry Howel (B Groover) – Jarrod Michael (J Roller)

On this roundtable we talks about a little news, but mostly segway into business discussions. Then we look at data and file management and some great picks.

 

Podcast #78 forum discussion:

Notable Time Indexes:

  • 00:00 Introductions
  • 03:30 Cost of things.
  • 13:45 Pentax 645 & formats and what matters.
  • 41:00 The middle break.
  • 51:15 Data, backup, management
  • 1:21:50 Picks & stuff.

Links to things we mentioned.

Gavin’s online Workshops coming this April.

Rosewill 8 drive bay. Gavin bought for mass archive storage.

Phil Sugarman tapes.

645D medium format digital.

Backblaze online backup.

Pogo plug remote access.

Synk. Gavin used scheduled for Mac backup.

PICKS:

Gavin…
Kim Wipes lens tissues.

Purosol. Great lens cleaning solution.

Barry…

Custom brackets.

Barry’s Jumbrella.

DZ…

Final cut pro 10 in the apple app store.
White coffee filters.

Kerry…

SmartShooter live view tethering app.
BBL Ez softbox.

Jared…

Nik Snapseed.

 


 

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  1. re: backups and Robocopy. I think Sync Toy is the newer, more user-friendly version of Robocopy. Sync Toy is from Microsoft and is free. http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=15155

    I’m using Crashplan for backup (similar to Backblaze) and Crashplan offers an “unlimited” off-site on-line backup for about $50/year. I’m using the $25/year plan now for backing up to local hard drives. I tried the 30 day trial for the unlimited plan and only backed up about 50 GB of the 500 GB I had planned to push to the cloud. I think it would take about 6 – 9 months to get a full backup to the cloud. The thing that really slows down the backup is that Crashplan will prioritize newly changed data for backup. So if you add or modify a steady block of data each day, you may never catch up on backing up the older stuff.

  2. Welcome to the podcast where the host vents his frustrations about everyone having a DSLR. STFU about that!

    1. So wait Andy, am I the cranky one here? We do cover all facets here for pro’s. Those include the challenges of the industry and heaven forbid, sometimes even a few rants. There’s lots of podcasts on aperture and shutter speed. Not that I’m against that stuff at all, but I like to mix it up.

      Stay tuned though. I am planning an episode that’s all photography and no business. It should be fun… G

  3. Gavin. I think I and a lot of others love the “mix-it-up” part. Some folks just simply need to get a life–others just enjoy what life brings. Rants are healthy at at time even a source of inspiration for some of us. Keep it up. Your show is very down to earth and I think that’s what makes it stand out. At least for me. I enjoy (actually look forward to) listening to your podcasts.

    1. Thanks Tony. It’s just funny that on a show aimed at professional photography, people get irritated at talking about the state of the industry. Life goes on though. There’s no law that says people have to enjoy the show, but I’m glad you do.

  4. Hi Gavin, I’ve been with you from the beginning, I learn a lot and I enjoy the podcasts. I had to respond to the latest round table discussion where the lesser skilled wedding photographers were being called “Bozo’s by the one guest , I think it was Barry. I would be a newer shooter as well, and while I am guilty of some of the things that he was snickering at, such as taking too many shots,,which was then decided that we must not “value our time”, if we take so many shots, which of course is not the case. in my case , I would rather shoot a bit extra, just in case.

    I think I am doing a good solid job on the 5 weddings that I have shot, but I would never think I am at your skill level, there is a market for brides that have no budget and are happy to have a newer shooter, I have turned out 5 , better than expected weddings and all involved were very pleased. Please remember that we all start some where, we all shoot our first wedding and we all do the best that we can. I enjoy listening to pro shooters and respect their opinions and try to learn from the criticism. But we aren’t Bozo’s, you can only get better from experience. I’m working on it.

    On the other hand, our friends were having a wedding for their daughter, big time budget, hired a local pro shooter, in the $6000. area, I was anxious to see the work. The mother said afterwards, this Photographer was AWFUL, the pictures were horrible, LOOK at this. The album was beautiful, the pictures were perfect as far as I could tell, sharp, well polished, but the photographer had an artsy style, about 85% of the pictures were taken with the camera turned off of level, lots of silhouettes and extreme contrast shots. The album was hard to look at, but still well done.
    The point is, the mother paid for a for sure pro level shooter , and she tells everyone that will listen, that this photographer does terrible work. So this was one case where she thought a big budget would guarantee great shots, she would have been happier with my work in this case.
    Again, i love your show and I learn every time, AND I bought the Aperture effect sets, still experimenting with it, but in general very happy with iRob

    1. Hey Rob, thanks for the feedback. First let me note that I can’t speak for other guests. When we have an open roundtable each is entitled to their own opinion. I’m sure Barry would welcome an email from you though to chat about hos thoughts.

      As for me. There seems to be a mistaken idea that I’m against newbies. But if that were the case I would not offer the resources I do. I understand where your coming from. I have not forgotten what it was like to start and I always to to be fair but honest to people starting out. There are many photographers out there who are not ready to be charging for their work and I’m not afraid to say so. There’s also many long time career photographers who are really bad.

      I’ve thought about all this that and I plan to clear up my own thoughts and make sure I’m presenting it the best way I can. I’m pro newbie for sure, but I’m not in favor of starting out by jumping in head first and booking clients. It takes time to master these skills enough that we should be charging for them. Just like any profession, one needs to learn to crawl before they can run. I’m not applying this to you in particular as I don’t know where you’re at. I’m just saying that jumping in too fast is why some photographers end up looking like fakes.

      Stay tuned. I have some shows in the works that will take on differing angles. Remember that PPS is all about variety.

      Gav

  5. A friend recently asked if I would do the photography for their wedding. I explained to them that I like photography but I am not a professional photographer. I told them that I ‘take’ pictures where a pro will ‘make’ pictures that are closer to art than snapshots. They insisted they were fine with me and luckily I was able to satisfy their requirements and got a lot of great shots. It’s important that amateurs are up front with people and explain the difference between them and professionals. Great podcast. I hope to be a pro someday but that is going to take a lot of studying and practice.

    1. Props Roy. And glad you enjoy it. It’s true there are all budgets, and as long as your honest about where you are I think it’s cool. You’ll only get better. Stay tuned for this weeks show. We have a good one planned… Gav

  6. But the client could easily be updated (and the terms of service, too) to capture passwords, without informing anybody.

  7. Hi, Wendy! Again, I do use cloud for almost everything- the wide access from many devices is useful and enabling, and I’ve lost FAR more data from un-backed-up non-cloud storage.

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Glad you're here.

I'm from WA State USA and started studying photography in 97. I started work as a pro (using that word loosely because I sucked) using film at age 16. I learned fast but was not as easy to find training then. Sometimes I beat my head against the wall until I figured stuff out.

As digital dawned I went all in and got to study with masters like Ken Whitmire. In 09 I founded the Pro Photo Show podcast. I started promoting tone-focused editing. When Lightroom arrived, I started developing tools to make editing and workflow better.

20 years of study and photography around the country earned me a Master of Photography (M.Photog) from PPA. I got to see my workshops and tools featured in publications across the industry. Once I even won the prestigious HotOne award for my "EXposed" light and tone workshop.

Wanting something calmer, I moved to Mexico in 2017. It's a land of magical light. I'm here now exploring light and trying to master my weak areas. I make videos of that for my Youtube channel, sharing what I learn. I hope you'll stick around and be part of Light Hunters Tribe... Gavin

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